[DEholnikof]

Ah – then automation is not a good choice for them. Although I’m not sure why deductions would vary from week to week. It is possible to put “cash advances” and the like, as variables.

It is possible to automate such things but its been a long time since I’ve looked at the payroll . . . . . . .

HMah wrote:

> The problem is not the Hours, but the Deductions. They want to ensure that specific items and amounts to be deducted are correct. Unfortunately the deductions vary from pay period to pay period and that’s why they want to Confirm the cheque before accepting it.
>

[DEholnikof]

Ah – don’t get me wrong – but isn’t that the point of having it Automated? The External “Time Collections” is where the hours should be checked, prior to submitting it to NewViews (Payroll Notes).

In my version – the “notes info” was imported by a procedure – after the hours/timesheets were verified.

Its been a very VERY long time since I ran the PayRun – but I seem to recall there was a pause/break?

HMah wrote:

> I’ve just run the Notes Payroll and it works fine. However, I
> prefer to have the option of Confirming each paycheque before
> proceeding to another.

[DEholnikof]

I can answer part of your questions

When the notes method is used, all fields are required, even if ZERO (Reg OT OTx)

The notes method is very handy when “Time Collection” is done from an outside source – such as Electronic Punch Clocks – and the time / data is sum’d and put into NewViews.

I’ve done this before – when there were several hundred employees. NewViews was used only for the Payroll and cheques.

David

HMah wrote:

> I had to go back to my notes to review the Notes method of entering payroll. I don’t use that method, so will have to guess why you are having the problem. Ususlly if an employee payroll is ignored it’s because you are attempting to calculate payroll for a Terminated Employee (one where you have run PRTROE). Know idea why it would skip random employees who have not been terminated, unless your input info does not match the Earnings for those employees.
>
> Questions:
> 1. Why bother with this method of inputting hrs?
> 2. What do you feel are the advantages?
> 3. How many employees do you have and are your running more than one department (or have more than one Payroll report)?

[DEholnikof]

Thanks for the input – but I have a few questions?
HMah wrote:

> Hi David:
> I found the installation very easy, but would suggest the following:
>
> 1. Have it create an Icon on the Windows desktop
The program will make a “desktop shortcut” for you. When the shortcut does not exist – then in the bottom left corner there is a button “Make Shortcut”

> 2. Have it default to “Monitor On”
Uh – the program monitors – when ever it is running.
Sometimes it is “slow to start, if newviews is started before the nvPRNq. But this is for technical reasons and because of how newviews works.

I could have it “Autoload” when Windows starts up, and also I could have it reduce to the “Icon Tray” instead of the Task Bar. There are also built in options to have it start and run invisble. (but its really hard to close afterward – only from the Task Manager)

> 3. Set the timer to default to the Minimum delay before checking folder and printing.
Hmm – many computer are not as fast, as what we use.
But perhaps a “menu” to change / set the options would be more helpful?

And – do I want the “Demo” to run as fast as possible ?
OR lock it to a 10 second delay?

Thanks for the input – it gives me a few ideas for a smoother use !!

Regards
David

[DEholnikof]

Hi,

Next week I will continue the work on nvPRNq so I have a general question, for those at large.

Anyone who is using or has used the nvPRNq – Any suggestions of how to make it easier to install or use would be welcomed !

Or difficulties encountered – would be most helpful to making it a simple product to use.

Regards
David

[DEholnikof]

Perhaps ask Geneva to email – show the template code here?
As we all know – even a misplaced Quote, Comma – etc will pop an error message :~)

Me

BHalpin wrote:

> Geneva e-mailed me privately saying the above did not work for
> her (got an error trying to PARSE the template.)
>
> I’ve double-checked and tested it and found no problem. Has
> anybody else used this and/or had a problem?
>
> Bob

[DEholnikof]

HMah wrote:

> I’ve got an HP 2175 usb printer connected and have just printed
> financial stmts from NV.
I’m glad its working well for you Next week – I will return to complete the work on it – so that the Bells & Whisles are included.

> Did you setup nvPRNq and define where it’s to find nv
> documents? In addition you must change your Print Options
> Filename to something like:
>
> C:NVQUEDOCU.PRN
>
> The c:nvque is default directory where nvPRNq finds the documents
> The DOCU.PRN is telling nv to print to the filename

Uh – the SETPRNQ procedure will do this for you. And it will also create the 2 NV Print drivers (if they don’t exist) ASCIIQ and NOFORMQ. If they are deleted, they can easily be recreated by running the SETPRNQ. So if you think the drivers are giving you a problem – delete them, then run the SetPrnQ.

While I don’t think it will help – you could use any NV Print driver by copying the ASCIIQ Setup String “1A A5 4E 56 41 30 30 31 34 32 35 1B” (it can vary from system to system) and append this to any other Print Driver Setup String. (But I think that I digress too far into the details:-) However, this is unsupported.

I would like all my processes at the NV level to be as open and transparent as possible. All the NV Procedure code for the nvPRNq.exe will be “Open Source” and I would hope that other programmers begin to use it, too !!

Regards
David

[DEholnikof]

Hi,

The nvPRNq will print to anything, including a USB printer (providing you can print to this, for example From a Word Document?)
nvPRNq is not dependant upon HOW the printer is connected. Because it uses the Windows SubSystem (OS) its only dependance is – CAN Windows print to the printer?

Did you
“Open any books and Import (GETPROCS) for c:nvRUNONCE “
AND then do /GR RUNONCE
(sometimes it helps to close the books after this)
AND then start the nvPRNq.exe – then open the books?

Also there is an included “nvPRNq_help.html” ?

Let me know,
David

RJohnson wrote:

> I’ve had no luck with the nvPRNq demo and I’m guessing it’s
> because my printer is connected via USB, not LPT1. The NOFORMQ
> printer in NewViews has settings only for erial and
> [P]arallel. Am I right?
>
> RR Johnson

[DEholnikof]

HMah wrote:

> Hi David:
>
> Can you reduce the 10sec dalay, when using nvPRNq, before the
> printing actually starts?
>

Yes, There are actually 3 separate features which effect how a job is submitted to the Windows Print Queue. There are two background events always occurring (for nvPRNq). Keep in mind, they are using “Timer Events” and only perform a task when the timer clicks (more like a repeating “alarm clock”). The minimum time event is 1 second – so the fastest any job can begin “printing” is 2 seconds. However, we have no control over the speed/time once the Windows print queue receives the print job.

There is a simple way to check timer settings. Double click the “Book with the red arrow” (in the middle) and a box will pop-up showing you the current settings.
=============
The DirScanFreq decides how often to look for a new print job (in seconds).

The SpoolerTimeOut decides how “Old” a job must be, before sending it to the Window’s Print Queue. “Old” is defined as having received no more input from NewViews.

The NoHogCPU forces the program to “wait its turn” with all the other windows programs. Regardless of the setting, it rarely consumes more than a few percent of the CPU cycles. This is really useful when printing LARGE Jobs (like 50 pages).

Installed with the nvPRN.exe program, you should have an INI file called “nvPRNq.ini”
NOTE: IT must have the same name as the exe file to work correctly.
nvprnq.exe
nvprnq.ini

With any word/text processer, add or modify the 3 lines below

DirScanFreq=1
SpoolerTimeOut=1
NoHogCPU=0

Perhaps more detail than you wanted, but . . . . I will promise to be more “short” in the future

I Hope this helps
David

[DEholnikof]

FYI – Back ground info

The simple difference between a “Windows” Vs “DOS” printer – lies in how the printer receives its data. DOS printers receive “characters” while WINDOW printers receive a Bit Map Data Stream. NEVER The two shall meet !!

Most Window’s printers are “dos capable” even when they don’t want to print. BUT it usually requires hexadecimal programing to coerce it – and can vary greatly between manufactures and even down to the model version.

Windows does not provide an Error Message for this simply because the DOS output is received by the printer – but is ignored because it is undecipherable (when the printer is in Windows Bit Map Mode).

However with the sheer volume of printers on the market today, it is no longer possible to consider a “generic” printing program to work in “dos mode”

[DEholnikof]

Hi,

if you’re using the nvPRNq – you can do this in a few simple steps.
1 Map your network printer to the local workstation.
2 Make the network printer your default.
3 Launch the nvPRN program – then NewViews

Assuming you can print any other document to this printer, then NewViews with the nvPRN can also.

You can get a free demo at http://www.prgms.com/newviews/nvPRNq/Beta2/index.html

Regards David

GSullivan wrote:

> I have a network printer that I would love to get newViews to
> print to. It is a simple peer to peer network and a Lexmark
> forms printer.
>
> I currently use the the Lexmark when printing from the computer
> NewViews is installed on from NewViews, when that computer is
> in use I would like to print to the Lexmark through NewViews
> from the peer computer.
>
> So far I have come up blank on getting it to print from the
> peer computer.
>
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Geneva

[DEholnikof]

HMah wrote:

> Sometimes when you have copied the NV program files to an XP
> computer you get an error when starting NV. If you click
> “Ignore” it allows access to NV with no problems. I’ve seen
> this problem with several computers.
>
> I’ve found that if you re-install NV using your original
> diskettes the error message is gone.
>

You might also want to mention – the more simpler and easy way to have a set of books load, is to use the NV.EXE Shell – rather than the more direct way of NVC.EXE

The shell (NV.EXE) can be used directly from windows, while the command line (NVC.EXE mybooks) is normally run from a dos window.

David

[DEholnikof]

Opps – sorry guys – I have fixed the link – and put a “redirect page” to send any one looking – to the new correct beta download home page.

The new home is http://www.prgms.com/newviews/nvPRNq/Beta2/index.html

Thanks

[DEholnikof]

Bob

I’m surprised, but pleasantly.

Nice to see – and perhaps you sent the forum info – with all the payroll updates?

Regards
David

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